What do these scripture verses literally say? God foreknew us (his adopted children); he predistined us; he called us; he justified us; he glorified us.
Lutherans, Calvinists, and Arminians (Free-will Baptists and many evangelicals) would all agree on this literal interpretation of these Bible verses. However, our Calvinist and Arminian Christian brothers and sisters derive additional doctrine from these verses beyond the literal text.
To Calvinists, it only makes sense, that if God predestines his elect, that would logically mean that he also predestines the damned. To them, God damns people to hell. These "damned" persons never had a chance. From the day they were born to the day they die, they will never have the opportunity to be saved.
To Arminians, who believe that man has the ability and obligation to make a choice for or against God, they also believe it is necessary to read into these passages more than what the literal text states.Our election, to them, is based on God foreknowing that we would make a free-will decision for him at some point in our lives. So since God sees into the future and sees that we make a choice for him, he then, in exchange for our decision, predestines us to be his elect.
To all this Lutherans say, "That isn't what the literal reading of those verses says!" To the Lutheran, what these verses state is that God predestines the elect (the saved). We don't add anything to that.
In regards to unbelievers, these verses do not state that God has predestined them to hell, so we don't jump to this very rational, but very unscriptural, conclusion as do our Calvinist brothers.
Lutherans also believe these verses literally: "God our Savior...who will have all men to be saved." I Timothy 2:4. "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." II Peter 3:9. "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23. God desires all men to be saved, but the unbeliever has the choice to send himself to hell!
God predestines (chooses) the elect, the saved. The sinner makes a choice to damn himself to hell.God predistines or chooses those who will be saved by his divine will, not by our decision making. The Lutheran view of Predestination may not be logical or make sense, but it is the literal reading of the Bible!
Below is a statement on the Doctrine of Predestination from the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod:
Of the Election of Grace
St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, N.D.) [Adopted 1932]35. By the election of grace we mean this truth, that all those who by the grace of God alone, for Christ's sake, through the means of grace, are brought to faith, are justified, sanctified, and preserved in faith here in time, that all these have already from eternity been endowed by God with faith, justification, sanctification, and preservation in faith, and this for the same reason, namely, by grace alone, for Christ's sake, and by way of the means of grace. That this is the doctrine of the Holy Scripture is evident from Eph. 1:3-7; 2 Thess. 2:13, 14; Acts 13:48; Rom. 8:28-30; 2 Tim. 1:9; Matt. 24:22-24 (cp. Form. of Conc. Triglot, p. 1065, Paragraphs 5, 8, 23; M., p. 705).
36. Accordingly we reject as an anti-Scriptural error the doctrine that not alone the grace of God and the merit of Christ are the cause of the election of grace, but that God has, in addition, found or regarded something good in us which prompted or caused Him to elect us, this being variously designated as "good works," "right conduct," "proper self-determination," "refraining from willful resistance," etc. Nor does Holy Scripture know of an election "by foreseen faith," "in view of faith," as though the faith of the elect were to be placed before their election; but according to Scripture the faith which the elect have in time belongs to the spiritual blessings with which God has endowed them by His eternal election. For Scripture teaches Acts 13:48: "And as many as were ordained unto eternal life believed." Our Lutheran Confession also testifies (Triglot, p. 1065, Paragraph 8; M. p. 705): "The eternal election of God however, not only foresees and foreknows the salvation of the elect, but is also, from the gracious will and pleasure of God in Christ Jesus, a cause which procures, works, helps, and promotes our salvation and what pertains thereto; and upon this our salvation is so founded that the gates of hell cannot prevail against it, Matt. 16:18, as is written John 10:28: `Neither shall any man pluck My sheep out of My hand'; and again, Acts 13:48: `And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.."'
37. But as earnestly as we maintain that there is an election of grace, or a predestination to salvation, so decidedly do we teach, on the other hand, that there is no election of wrath, or predestination to damnation. Scripture plainly reveals the truth that the love of God for the world of lost sinners is universal, that is, that it embraces all men without exception, that Christ has fully reconciled all men unto God, and that God earnestly desires to bring all men to faith, to preserve them therein, and thus to save them, as Scripture testifies, 1 Tim. 2:4: "God will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." No man is lost because God has predestined him to eternal damnation.
--Eternal election is a cause why the elect are brought to faith in time, Acts 13:48; but election is not a cause why men remain unbelievers when they hear the Word of God. The reason assigned by Scripture for this sad fact is that these men judge themselves unworthy of everlasting life, putting the Word of God from them and obstinately resisting the Holy Ghost, whose earnest will it is to bring also them to repentance and faith by means of the Word, Act 13:46; 7:51; Matt. 23:37.
38. To be sure, it is necessary to observe the Scriptural distinction between the election of grace and the universal will of grace. This universal gracious will of God embraces all men; the election of grace, however, does not embrace all, but only a definite number, whom "God hath from the beginning chosen to salvation," 2 Thess. 2:13, the "remnant," the "seed" which "the Lord left," Rom. 9:27- 29, the "election," Rom. 11:7; and while the universal will of grace is frustrated in the case of most men, Matt. 22:14; Luke 7:30, the election of grace attains its end with all whom it embraces, Rom. 8:28-30. Scripture, however, while distinguishing between the universal will of grace and the election of grace, does not place the two in opposition to each other. On the contrary, it teaches that the grace dealing with those who are lost is altogether earnest and fully efficacious for conversion. Blind reason indeed declares these two truths to be contradictory; but we impose silence on our reason. The seeming disharmony will disappear in the light of heaven, 1 Cor. 13:12.
39. Furthermore, by election of grace, Scripture does not mean that one part of God's counsel of salvation according to which He will receive into heaven those who persevere in faith unto the end, but, on the contrary, Scripture means this, that God, before the foundation of the world, from pure grace, because of the redemption of Christ, has chosen for His own a definite number of persons out of the corrupt mass and has determined to bring them through Word and Sacrament, to faith and salvation.
40. Christians can and should be assured of their eternal election. This is evident from the fact that Scripture addresses them as the chosen ones and comforts them with their election, Eph. 1:4; 2 Thess. 2:13. This assurance of one's personal election, however, springs only from faith in the Gospel, from the assurance that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; on the contrary, through the life, suffering, and death of His Son He fully reconciled the whole world of sinners unto Himself. Faith in this truth leaves no room for the fear that God might still harbor thoughts of wrath and damnation concerning us. Scripture inculcates that in Rom. 8:32, 33: "He that spared not His own Son, but gave Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth." Luther's pastoral advice is therefore in accord with Scripture: "Gaze upon the wounds of Christ and the blood shed for you; there predestination will shine forth." (St. Louis ed., II, 181; on Gen. 26:9) That the Christian obtains the personal assurance of his eternal election in this way is taught also by our Lutheran Confessions (Formula of Concord, Triglot, p. 1071, Paragraph 26, M. 709): "Of this we should not judge according to our reason nor according to the Law or from any external appearance. Neither should we attempt to investigate the secret, concealed abyss of divine predestination, but should give heed to the revealed will of God. For He has made known unto us the mystery of His will and made it manifest through Christ that it might be preached, Eph. 1:9ff.; 2 Tim. 1:9f."
— In order to insure the proper method of viewing eternal election and the Christian's assurance of it, the Lutheran Confessions set forth at length the principle that election is not to be considered "in a bare manner (nude), as though God only held a muster, thus: `This one shall be
saved, that one shall be damned"' (Formula of Concord, Triglot, p. 1065, Paragraph 9; M., p. 706); but "the Scriptures teach this doctrine in no other way than to direct us thereby to the Word, Eph. 1:13; 1 Cor. 1:7; exhort to repentance, 2 Tim. 3:16; urge to godliness, Eph. 1:14; John 15:3; strengthen faith and assure us of our salvation, Eph. 1:13; John 10:27f.; 2 Thess. 2:13f." (Formula of Concord, Triglot, p. 1067, Paragraph
12; M., p. 707).
— To sum up, just as God in time draws the Christian unto Himself through the Gospel, so He has already in His eternal election endowed them with "sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth," 2 Thess. 2:13. Therefore: If, by the grace of God, you believe in the Gospel of the forgiveness of your sins for Christ's sake, you are to be certain that you also belong to the number of God's elect, even as Scripture, 2 Thess. 2:13, addresses the believing Thessalonians as the chosen of God and gives thanks to God for their election.
God loved Jacob, and he did not love Esau; he did choose Jacob, but he did not choose Esau; he did bless Jacob, but he never blessed Esau; his mercy followed Jacob all the way of his life, even to the last, but his mercy never followed Esau; he permitted him still to go on in his sins, and to prove that dreadful truth, "Esau have I hated."
ReplyDeleteEsau gave up his birthright.
"Esau have I hated."
Delete"...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." II Peter 3:9.
Logic would tell you that since God hated Esau, God predestined him to be damned. But II Peter 3:9 says that God doesn't want anyone to perish (be damned).
Doesn't make sense, right?
Lutherans would say, "So what! The actions of God don't have to make sense to man for them to be true."
The literal interpretation of these two passages of Scripture is: God hated Esau but he wants all to come to repentence. The fact that God hated Esau is not evidence that God predestines the damned to hell.
"Double predestination" is a logical conclusion, but it is not scriptural.
Gary, I'm curious.
DeleteCan you tell me your view on why did God predestine the elect? Is it because God foresaw that they would choose Him?
The verse in question states "For whom he did foreknow...he predestinates".
DeleteIt doesn't say that "For whom he did foreknow would at some time in their lives make a decision for him."
It is a mystery why God chose some to be his elect. Lutherans leave it at that. We don't try to read into it.
I disagree. It does not use the word "predestinates" at all. Read the verse in its ENTIRETY - you're not taking in the entire sentence! 28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." Those he foreKNEW (knew would become saved) -to THOSE he predestined - but it doesn't END there- predestined for what? Read the words that follow! "PREDESTINED TO BECOME CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON". This is what happens after we are saved, and through our lives as believers! Not "predestined to chose him or predestined to go to Hell". If this were true then why are we commanded to preach the Gospel to the world"? He is not willing that "ANY SHOULD PERISH" (2 Peter 3:9). Are we then to throw away this verse, where God is specifically stating his will for mankind? "ANY" means "ANY"!
DeleteI don't why I did not respond to this comment previously.
DeleteThe person who left this comment is obviously an Arminian Christian. He says "those he foreKNEW (knew would become saved) - to THOSE he predestined..."
I don't know about his Bible, but my Bible does not include the phrase "knew would be saved". This is an Arminian interpretation of what they GUESS God is trying to say in this passage of Scripture.
Let's not add to Scripture. God says "those he foreknew he predestined". "Foreknew" could mean many different things. Arminian Christians are jumping to a conclusion so that this passage of Scripture conforms to their doctrine.
Arminians, like their brothers the Calvinists, have a hard time accepting mysteries. They want to explain everything by reason. Lutherans believe that we must accept what God says in the Bible without the need to force everything to conform to what human's believe is reasonable and logical.
Look again to the Annunciation for an Orthodox perspective. (cf. Isaiah 8:10-15; Luke 1:26-38) Mary was predestined to be the one to bear Christ in her womb as foretold by Isaiah. In her logical mind, she could not understand this since she was a virgin and pledged to live her life in the Temple as such. The Archangel Gabriel explained the process to her of the Holy Spirit's descent from God the Father. Mary, with her faith in God & her free will to accept or decline, accepted to become the first earthly vessel to contain the Body & Blood of Christ.
ReplyDeleteAs for salvation; there is strength in numbers. Orthodox believe we are saved together, but damned alone. St. John Chrysostom has a beautiful prayer which made it into the Book of Common Prayer as the preface for concluding morning & evening prayers: Almighty God, who hast given us grace at this time with one accord to make our common supplications unto thee; and dost promise that when two or three are gathered in thy Name thou wilt grant their requests; Fulfill now, O Lord, the desires and petitions of thy servants, as may be most expedient for them; granting us in this world knowledge of thy truth, and in the world to come life everlasting. Amen.